Journalist, television personality and author Lisa Ling [Take Out, This is Life with Lisa Ling, National Geographic Explorer, The Oprah Winfrey Show, The View, Our America with Lisa Ling] talks with Anna about courage, her experience in North Korea, human resilience, early loves, meeting her husband, pick-up artist camp, the effects of social media, her new show Take Out on HBO Max and more. Later in the episode, Lisa and Anna talk with a listener who, after a series of bad first-dates, wonders what she can do differently. Their next call is with a listener whose ex-husband’s continued presence in her life is preventing her from moving on.
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