Karen Pittman [The Morning Show, The Americans, And Just Like That, Yellowstone] talks with Anna about her upcoming project Unthinkably Good Things, growing up as the “weird one” in her family, falling in love with someone’s potential, being loyal to oneself, learning from difficult times and more.

Our first call today is with Martha who recently broke up with her boyfriend of 12 years but due to their financial situation, still lives with him. After repeatedly arguing about what went wrong, Martha wonders if it will be possible to even remain friends.

Next to call in is Jazmin, a 32-year-old mother of two who has been in a serious relationship with a man who seems to really love her and her kids. Multiple conversations about weddings and proposals led Jazmin to assume they would get married, only to then discover that her boyfriend doesn’t believe in marriage. Now Jazmin feels like she has been deceived and wonders if they should even stay together.