In this flashback episode, Joel Kinnaman [The Killing, RoboCop, Suicide Squad, For All Mankind] talks with Anna about trying to break his friend’s arm, learning to apologize, tall poppy syndrome, how his marriage proposal nearly led to incarceration, his least favorite press questions, humility, family, working at McDonald’s, and more.

Later in the episode, Anna and April Beyer talk with a listener who faces the tough choice of staying with his partner in a small town or chasing his dreams in the big city.